diff --git a/ompi/datatype/ompi_datatype_create_darray.c b/ompi/datatype/ompi_datatype_create_darray.c
index 9034f205c7..6ca81cf867 100644
--- a/ompi/datatype/ompi_datatype_create_darray.c
+++ b/ompi/datatype/ompi_datatype_create_darray.c
@@ -247,8 +247,7 @@ int32_t ompi_datatype_create_darray(int size,
     }
 
 
-    /* set displacement and UB correctly. Use struct instead of
-       resized for same reason as subarray */
+    /* set displacement and UB correctly. Please read the comment in subarray */
     {
         ptrdiff_t displs[3], tmp_size;
         ompi_datatype_t *types[3];
@@ -267,9 +266,13 @@ int32_t ompi_datatype_create_darray(int size,
         for (i = 0 ; i < ndims ; i++) {
             displs[2] *= gsize_array[i];
         }
-        types[0] = MPI_LB; types[1] = lastType; types[2] = MPI_UB;
+        if(oldtype->super.flags & (OPAL_DATATYPE_FLAG_USER_LB | OPAL_DATATYPE_FLAG_USER_UB) ) {
+            types[0] = MPI_LB; types[1] = lastType; types[2] = MPI_UB;
 
-        rc = ompi_datatype_create_struct(3, blength, displs, types, newtype);
+            rc = ompi_datatype_create_struct(3, blength, displs, types, newtype);
+        } else {
+            ompi_datatype_create_resized(lastType, displs[0], displs[2], newtype);
+        }
         ompi_datatype_destroy(&lastType);
         /* need to destroy the old type even in error condition, so
            don't check return code from above until after cleanup. */
diff --git a/ompi/datatype/ompi_datatype_create_subarray.c b/ompi/datatype/ompi_datatype_create_subarray.c
index c628fe26d1..d9bf3ea06c 100644
--- a/ompi/datatype/ompi_datatype_create_subarray.c
+++ b/ompi/datatype/ompi_datatype_create_subarray.c
@@ -40,6 +40,12 @@ int32_t ompi_datatype_create_subarray(int ndims,
     int32_t i, step, end_loop;
     MPI_Aint size, displ, extent;
 
+    /**
+     * If the oldtype contains the original MPI_LB and MPI_UB markers then we
+     * are forced to follow the MPI standard suggestion and reset these 2
+     * markers (MPI 3.0 page 96 line 37).  Otherwise we can simply resize the
+     * datatype.
+     */
     ompi_datatype_type_extent( oldtype, &extent );
 
     /* If the ndims is zero then return the NULL datatype */
@@ -85,12 +91,12 @@ int32_t ompi_datatype_create_subarray(int ndims,
 
  replace_subarray_type:
     /**
-     * We cannot use resized here. Resized will only set the soft lb and ub markers
-     * without moving the real data inside. What we need is to force the displacement
-     * of the data upward to the right position AND set the LB and UB. A type
-     * struct is the function we need.
+     * Resized will only set the soft lb and ub markers without moving the real
+     * data inside. Thus, in case the original data contains the hard markers
+     * (MPI_LB or MPI_UB) we must force the displacement of the data upward to
+     * the right position AND set the hard markers LB and UB.
      */
-    {
+    if( oldtype->super.flags & (OPAL_DATATYPE_FLAG_USER_LB | OPAL_DATATYPE_FLAG_USER_UB) ) {
         MPI_Aint displs[3];
         MPI_Datatype types[3];
         int blength[3] = { 1, 1, 1 };
@@ -98,6 +104,8 @@ int32_t ompi_datatype_create_subarray(int ndims,
         displs[0] = 0; displs[1] = displ * extent; displs[2] = size * extent;
         types[0] = MPI_LB; types[1] = last_type; types[2] = MPI_UB;
         ompi_datatype_create_struct( 3, blength, displs, types, newtype );
+    } else {
+        ompi_datatype_create_resized(last_type, 0, size * extent, newtype);
     }
     ompi_datatype_destroy( &last_type );